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Marketo Triggers, Flows, and Filters Reference Guide – Finally

January 22, 2013 By Josh Hill

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Marketo Filter and Trigger Reference ScreenshotAfter many hours of toil, I present to you the complete Marketo Filters, Flows, and Triggers Reference Guide, a chapter of the Marketing Rockstar’s Guide to Marketo.

This highly detailed reference guide covers every single item with screenshots, examples, and suggestions so you completely understand which combination of triggers, filters, and operators will get you the right Smart List. I show you the Flow actions and how they actually work.

I even tell you which triggers and filters to completely avoid. Marketo won’t tell you this, but I’ve learned it the hard way so you don’t spend time wondering why a trigger misfired.

This section of the Marketing Rockstar’s Guide to Marketo is the largest at 74 pages.

But this is too juicy to put out in the wild. Below you will find a link to a sample of this amazing reference work. I can only show you the first 11 pages. I am confident this is such a great tool that you will want to see more, even if you think you know a lot about Marketo already.

To see more email me: marketo.guide {at] marketingrockstarguides.com. If I get enough responses, I’ll consider a special early release of just this chapter for a very special price. But you need to email me to get on this early bird list.

Here it is:

Appendix I: Marketo Filters, Flows, and Triggers Reference Guide [Slideshare]

Filed Under: Marketo User Guide

Marketing Automation Pricing Comparisons

January 17, 2013 By Josh Hill

Marketing automation is a big investment for many firms and everyone is keen to show serious results from using the tools. Before you can do that, however, you need to take a look at the pricing options available.

Learn how to calculate the estimated price of a solution

  • Record Count: In your Salesforce.com system’s Setup, expand Data Management and click on the Storage Usage link.  Look for and add up the Record Counts of Leads and Contacts. [Updated: thanks to David Carnes at OpFocus for reminding me to fix this one!]
  • What you want to do with the system. Do you need email? automation? landing pages? inbound and outbound? For instance, if you just need an inbound blog platform, HubSpot may do. If you want automation and outbound options, you may like Marketo more.
  • Review all the marketing automation features you need and are offered.
  • Your maximum ability to spend. Keep in mind the system may be worth 1-2 FTEs in total time savings and increase in the number of tasks you can manage with one person.

When building your budget, don’t take the current amount you are spending on email software as the only reference point. Sure, you can reallocate those funds quickly, but I bet  if you were just sending emails, it will not be enough. Take into account the time saved from automation of tasks (email creation, lead flow management, deduping) and the leverage you create by having a tightly integrated sales funnel.

The Big Marketing Automation Pricing Comparison

  • Marketo Pricing: Marketo’s pricing for SMBs is in three tiers from Spark to Select, then a fourth tier Enterprise. Fees are monthly, quarterly, or annually. Expect to pay between $30K to $70K per year in most cases. Pricing is based on your record count at the start of the contract. Typically includes on-boarding process and standard support which is usually enough. There are no per email fees. Extras like dedicated IPs can be negotiated. List prices may be negotiable. Marketo recently upgraded all tiers to unlimited Marketing Users, which is a big plus.
  • HubSpot Pricing uses a 3 tier base system plus a monthly fee for the size of your database. Expect to pay $20K-$50K per year, up front.  Smaller businesses which use the Basic package can start lower than $10K. There are no per email fees. HubSpot does require one time setup and training fees which add $2,000 to $7,000. If you are new to the web, blogging, and inbound it could be worth it. You can effectively use HubSpot as your website and analytics tool if that helps you drop other services.
  • Pardot Pricing (ExactTarget) also has a three tier base system starting with 30K records and adding $300/mo for each additional 30K. There are no per email fees. There are file, landing page, and other limitations which other services do not have. Billing is quarterly for the annual fee. Some fees and extras may be negotiable.
  • Act-on Pricing is simple and potentially limiting. They charge per active contact tier starting at $500 for 2,500 contacts you can email per month. That means if you email 2500 people in a month, that’s it. No more emails until you pay more. [Update] According to Act-On staff, there are unlimited plans, but I was unable to review them for this post.
  • Eloqua Pricing (Oracle) also has three pricing tiers with a base price plus a fee for contacts over 10K. Eloqua does limit Marketing Users. They have a range of add-ons and pricing can be negotiated. Expect to pay $24K to $100K depending on your database size. There are no per email fees.

Are There Alternatives to Marketing Automation?

That depends on what you need. If you are looking primarily for email marketing, tracking, and basic management, there are plenty of tools. The most popular and reliable are:

  • Mailchimp is what I use here to manage my list. If you want to help me and Mailchimp out, get me to 2,000 subscribers and I’ll start paying. The system is quite good and can be more flexible if you have someone who can create email templates and use the API. Expect to pay $100 to $3,000 per year. There are no per email fees.
  • ExactTarget started out with email solutions which are robust. I’ve never used it and they aren’t posting pricing. Expect contact or per email pricing.
  • Silverpop also has a marketing automation solution which they acquired. I hear their deliverability services are quite good.
  • ConstantContact is still primarily about email marketing. Their pricing is similar to Mailchimp’s: based on records. Expect to pay about $1,800-$3,000 if you have a larger database.

Of course, if your team needs to leverage automation, email, pages, and scoring to be effective, you need to go with a fully featured marketing automation solution. Email platforms aren’t going to cut it.

Marketing Automation Consulting Fees

Fees for consulting implementation or other services, such as Marketo training, vary widely depending on what you need done and when. Here are some general ideas to get you started:

  • Full Marketing Automation Agencies including Marketo Professional Services: $200-250/hr. LeadMD posts their pricing in a fairly transparent manner.
  • Independent Marketing Consultants: about $100-150/hr. Anyone who is charging less is probably not worth it based on what I’ve heard from clients. Similarly, anyone who offers me less does not value good work.
  • Enterprise level integration companies like BlueWolf are more appropriate for major work. Expect to pay over $30,000 to start.

Calculating the Marketing Automation Total Cost of Ownership

You probably forgot to also include costs such as integration time and fees, consultant fees (like me), and design fees. Many of the people I work with take a Marketo implementation as a good moment to upgrade email and page templates, since most of those templates are out of date. You can take advantage of the propensity to spend while spending to upgrade whatever you need. Some firms may lack expertise to run the combined automation system and will need to hire a Marketing Programs Manager, Marketing Operations Manager, or a Demand Manager to be at the helm.

  • Email Templates: $500-1500. Marketo will take your templates and load them for you for $500/hr. I can do this for $145/hr or your designer can do this too.
  • Landing Page Templates: $500-2000. Again, Marketo or a consultant can help you here because there is critical HTML code to make this work properly.
  • Operations or Demand Gen Manager: currently running at $80,000 to $95,000 in many areas of the US. Additional database skills such as SQL or SFDC Admin will cost more.
  • SFDC Admin or Certified Consultant: a good one could start at $250/hr. Good FTEs are often $100K+. I recommend having one on call if your SFDC is complex or very large.
  • Marketo Partner Agency: $200-250/hr
  • Independent Marketo Consultant or small agency: $145/hr

If you don’t need to hire additional staff, your TCO may run between $25,000-$75,000 per year. If you decide you need to hire someone or a consultant for any stage of the implementation, you may need to add another $2,500  to $20,000. So even if in the first year you spend $100,000 to setup, learn, and enhance your automation system, your productivity will be at least twice that of a single FTE you could have hired.

What are your experiences buying email or automation platforms? Let us know below.

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Filed Under: Marketo User Guide

A Marketo Filter and Flow Actions Text Notation Method

January 7, 2013 By Josh Hill

Marketo Flow Step Notation

One thing I noticed on the Marketo Community is how hard it is to explain how to write out a Smart List using filters just using alphanumerics. Images explain what is going on so much better because Marketo is such a visual tool. Yet, there is no agreed notation method for writing out a Flow Step or Smart List Filter using just text.

Here’s what I suggest we do.

Filters or Triggers are written in Title Case: (if possible use Courier or Preformatted to show this just like a snippet of code).

Fills Out Form
Filled Out Form
Data Value Changes

Smart List Trigger Notation

Operators are shown in ALL CAPS such as IN, OR, AND, IS NOT EMPTY.

Filter Values are shown in double quotes “” to make it clear these are variables to adjust.

Filled Out Form IS NOT "Unsubscribe"
Visits Web Page CONTAINS "Careers; Career; Job" AT LEAST "2" times
Member of Smart List IN "Personal Email Domains"

Note the use of the semi-colon to denote the use of multiple values for a filter instead of OR since this is how Marketo shows it on the workspace.

Marketo Visits Web Page Notation

A Trigger like Data Value Changes requires an Attribute (field) before further filtering. This would be denoted by a colon after the Trigger Name and “with” to start the additional Constraints. You could also use this for similar Flow Steps.

Data Value Changes: Email Invalid with New Value IS "True"

Choices in Flow Steps can be denoted in a similar fashion, adding “then” between the condition and the change you want to make.

Change Data Value:
Choice 1: If Email Invalid IS "True" then New Value IS "False"
Choice 2: If Member of Smart List IN "Personal Email Domain" then New Value IS "False"
Default Choice: Do Nothing

Marketo Flow Step Notation

Showing Smart List Rule Logic such as ALL, ANY, or Advanced can be accomplished by using those operators before the Smart List or showing the order like Marketo does, using “1, 2, 3…” before each filter, then showing the logic as

(1 or 2) and (3 or 4)

Finally, an entire Smart Campaign should be written as:

Campaign: Email Revalidate
If Data Value Changes: Email Invalid with New Value IS "True"
Then Change Data Value: Email Invalid to New Value IS "False"
Schedule: Qualification Rule=Every Time and Recurrence: Daily at 10:00 AM

I like this method because it is clear how to go back to Marketo to select the matching Trigger, Filter, Constraints, Operators, and Values. I use a similar format in the Marketing Rockstar’s Guide to Marketo with the use of font changes. The chief advantage of the method in this post is you can use it on the Marketo Community, an Email, or anywhere else without the need for fancy text editors.

 

Filed Under: Marketo User Guide

My Big Problem with Lead Scoring

January 2, 2013 By Josh Hill

Happy New Year to my Marketo friends!

Unsubscribe Lead Scoring TriggerSince I released my Marketing Rockstar’s Guide to Lead Scoring, I have received great comments from the community. Thank you. But something’s been eating at me about Lead Scoring. In the past month, I have worked with a few of you on lead scoring issues. Most of the work stems from scoring models which just don’t seem to work. Initially it seemed that the audience or Sales had changed. Now I think it is the model was wrong from the beginning and it only became clear as it broke down. In fact, I believe Lead Scoring is entirely misleading to salespeople and to marketers.

Lead Scoring Does Not Prioritize Leads Well

Lead Scoring is touted as a way to help Sales prioritize leads, but is often used by Marketing to pre-qualify leads with the assumption that higher scores equals higher priority. I do not think that is logical because the sales process is more complex than that. Each salesperson has his own prioritization system based on his approach to entering an Account. Sure, it’s roughly the same: find champions, supporters, and decision makers. Sometimes it’s better to build up support before speaking to the decision maker; sometimes it’s the decision maker’s call from the start. Marketing can’t know this in advance. As Sirius Decisions pointed out, most people score C-suite at +20 (or higher), but how often does your salesperson work directly with CXOs? Are you sure the busiest person is a priority on the first call?

Marketing’s role is to find leads who are in the target audience and who have indicated some level of interest in the service. In the past few years, vendors and consultants have told marketers that we need to figure out the buying stage and offer content at the right times to leads who poke around our site looking for possible solutions to their problems. That seems like a good set of activities to keep us employed. As a marketer you then track those interactions to determine when a salesperson should call. Call too early and you risk irritating the lead and the sales person who will forget about the lead until it is too late; call too late, and the opportunity is missed.

What a salesperson wants is a pre-packaged deal ready to sign by the end of the day without leaving their home office. Yeah, not happening these days.

What can happen is placing the right leads in front of the salesperson at the right time. The right lead may be a Supporter, Champion, or Decision Maker. But you should let the salesperson decide which one they need to get in touch with and when. Thus, assigning points to titles like “CEO” or “Vice President of Research” is not going to tell the salesperson if that lead is “sales ready” or even the right person to call today. You should show Sales leads who are possible Supporters, Champions, or Decision Makers. Those are people in your Target Audience and who have certain behaviors. That is your group of MQLs. The priority to call is up to the sales person.

Lead Scoring is Unnecessary for Marketing Qualification

Imagine a scoring system where the threshold is 30 points. A Form Fill Out is +10, a Visited Page is +1 and +5 for Multiple Web Page Visits, and a Clicks Link in Email is +2. So it’s pretty easy to hit 30 points after just 1 email CTA since it often sparks a series of actions.

+10 for Form
+2 for Click
+1 +1 for Visits 2 pages
+5 for Multiple pages (a lead will invariably hit up other pages)

Usually two of these are enough to reach a threshold. This problem began to expose itself with Lead Nurturing where we found out it did take 1 or 2 emails to trigger the threshold and then reassign a lead to a sales person.

To me, advancing a lead after two Fill Outs seems too soon unless it is a specific Form, such as Call Me Now. Do we know from the point value or from 2 forms that this person is ready for a sales call? I doubt it. The difficulty with Scoring is it masks the actions taken by a Lead with numbers, abstracting it away from the real intent behind those behaviors. The same is true for the demographic score: if you already know the target audience and have the Smart Lists, why waste time scoring? They are in the audience or they are not! You probably set your MQL flow to say something like

If Lead Score > 30 AND Member of Smart List IN "Target Audience"
Then Sync to SFDC with "Auto-Assignment Rules"

So you are already filtering by Demographics, therefore, don’t duplicate your efforts by adding Lead Scores here.

Replace Behavior Scoring with Behavior Qualification

You can also forget behavioral scoring. It’s pointless. Why abstract the actions with numbers? Use Behavior Qualification instead. This method helps you select the behaviors most likely to get the sales person to call the Lead. If you can, go one step further to select behaviors most associated with a Closed/Won Opportunity.

Let’s examine a possible scenario: If it takes roughly 2 Form Fill Outs for a lead to be worthy of a sales person, then just set a campaign to say:

Fills Out Form IS NOT "Unsubscribe" AT LEAST 2 Times AND Member of List IN "Target Audience"

This Smart List achieves the same thing as scoring each Form Fill Out at +15 and 5 Visits Web Page at +1 or any rough combination of other scores. The flow is also clear and honest about what it does.

Your trigger list could go deeper to specific page and form combinations, specific web visits, and email clicks. You are already doing this with scoring, with a secondary layer of unneeded logic which will tend to mask the behaviors you want to see from the Lead.

What about negative behaviors?

If you look carefully at many firms’ negative behavior list, the only truly negative “behavior” is to be a Competitor or a Student. Those people get excluded immediately through demographics. The next behavior is to Unsubscribe, yet I rarely see a system which strongly deprecates this behavior. And Unsubscribing may not even be all that bad as long as the lead takes other actions you want. Instead, create a Smart List to segment out Unsubscribers and Career Page Visitors from your MQL if you prefer. You still don’t need points here.

There is a better way to handle Marketing Qualification: Behavior Qualification

The better way is to take what you learned from your Sales Survey to establish a series of Smart Lists or a set of triggers around the buying process. This new method is called Behavior Qualification. Once you’ve set clear MQL thresholds based on the Target Audience Smart List and behaviors, you might go even further into the buying process stages, refining that list of behaviors to better time that call from Sales.

If you’ve gone through a Lead Scoring Survey process as I wrote about in the Lead Scoring Chapter of the Guide, then you are ready to implement Behavior and Demographic Qualification for your MQL process.

Marketo Sales Insight StartMarketo Sales Insight Flame for steep increases in Lead scoringYou can still implement Lead Scoring to drive Marketo Sales Insight’s Stars and Flams, but my experience has been Sales teams often ignore these visual cues.

Is anyone using a system like this, without scores? Tell me what you think in the comments below.

Images: Josh Hill and Marketo

Filed Under: Marketo User Guide

Naming and Organization in Marketo

December 18, 2012 By Josh Hill

Marketo Program Numbering
Marketo Program Numbering
A step by step naming scheme

Great, you purchased a Marketo License! Now you are on your way toward becoming a Rockstar.

Rockstars, believe it or not, are organized. They leave nothing to chance and they practice disciplined rocking, er, Marketing. Setting up Marketo to function well should be one of your first actions before using the system for your big marketing push.

A few minutes of thought and careful setup will save you hours and days later.

Key Tip: Choose a Consistent Naming Formula

One of the first things Marketo suggests to new users is to devise a naming scheme for your various programs and assets. I agree. I have seen several options over the years and recommend a few systems depending on your need or area of Marketo. Learn more about naming and organizing Marketo with my full guide.

Rule 1: Keep the name clear and memorable so if you ever leave the firm, others can start where you left off.

Rule 2: Number steps in a program so it is easy to see how leads should progress.

Naming is also important because it can help you find assets while you set up filters or triggers. In particular, the creation of Smart List reports and Reports becomes much easier when you can use a filter like

Visited Web Page Web Page CONTAINS “webinar”

instead of finding every single webinar you want to include. While Marketo does allow searching of names of assets, the functionality is limited because it works best on the first few letters or numbers (which is why dates are so important). You can use dates like

YYYY MM DD My Big Event Program
YYYYMMDD My Campaign Name

Warning! Avoid Use of Underscores

I’ve found underscores unnecessary. Underscores also confuse the Marketo search function such that My_Program_Name cannot be found unless you actually type in “My_” at a minimum, instead of “My.”

More Best Practices

  • The Marketo Expert’s Guide to Advance Program Templates
  • Responsive Marketo Landing Page Template

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